Joel Richardson is gravely mistaken in showing Turkey as the Antichrist
Joel Richardson is gravely mistaken in showing Turkey as the Antichrist(Excerpt from live tv conversation of Mr. Adnan Oktar on A9 TV, 24 July 2012)
ADNAN OKTAR: They keep insisting on trying to make a antichrist out of Turkey. That is where Joel who came here is making a great mistake. He insists on portraying Turkey as the antichrist. Then he talks about love, affection and compassion. If you depict Turkey and Muslims as the antichrist, then the Christian world will want to destroy the antichrist. So you have made the slaying of the Islamic world lawful. You have made it lawful for Turkey to be brought to the ground, and you have encouraged it. What kind of love is that? He is saying, "When the Mahdi appears, if he encourages people toward peace, then he is the antichrist." Allah, Allah, my brother, you are so fixated that you declare someone who speaks of war to be the antichrist and also someone who speaks of peace to be he antichrist and also the one who is silent. So what are people to do?
I said we will build the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, insha'Allah. He says he antichrist will do it. Allah Allah. "So let us not do it," I said. "Since it is a portent of the system of the antichrist, of the antichrist. In that case we abandon it," I said. "No," he says, "That is not what I meant." That is exactly what you mean. If you say the antichrist will do it, then Muslims must not build the Temple of Solomon. The way of the antichrist is not the absence of a mosque. It is something very terrible indeed. If you depict Muslims as the antichrist to the entire Christian world, if you cite that as a portent of the antichrist, then Muslims will not build that mosque.
If you say the unification of Muslims is a portent of the antichrist, then we should stay divided. Is that right? He says that if he speaks of peace then he is the antichrist. Allah, Allah, what kind of fixation is this, my brother? If he protects Jews, he is the antichrist, he says. So what should we do? Should we kill Jews, innocent Jews? Should we leave everywhere covered in blood? What are we to do, I mean? Of course we must advocate peace. He says he [antichrist] will first espouse peace but then shed blood. Allah knows the unseen. If a person is virtuous at the start, he will be virtuous at the end. Is that right? There is a positive presumption. If someone teaches all people in favor of peace at first, then people will fully adopt the idea of peace. And how can you incite people to war after that? You must first tell people of peace using verses and hadiths; everyone will believe in that and arrange their lives accordingly. You will embrace Christians and Jews. And then all of a sudden the Mahdi will say 'I was wrong on that, and he will tell us to kill altogether. This is what he [Joel] is implying. That is his logic. Is that at all possible, my brother? This is diametrically opposed to the Qur'an. Such a thing is impossible. How can the Mahdi get that idea from? Based on what can he derive such a logic? And why? And who would then believe in his being the Mahdi? Who would follow him? All Muslims are affectionate and compassionate. Are there no Muslims who think like the antichrist? Yes, there are. There are the Taliban and al-Qaeda. There are many bigoted sects and groups that resemble the antichrist. What about the people who shed blood in Iraq and Afghanistan? They are also the followers of the antichrist. What are they? Angels? They are the antichrist, too. Al Qaeda blow up innocent people, the Taliban bomb places to pieces, and that is also the work of the antichrist. The Jews also have their antichrists. They go and rake youngsters in Palestine and then say 'pardon, there has been a mistake'. That is also the work of the antichrist. But what crime do innocent Jews commit? Or innocent Christians? I regard innocent evangelicals, those who are well-intentioned, with love and affection. But it is wrong and illogical to portray Turkey as the antichrist. It is cruelty. When I speak about peace, he says, "the antichrist will also be in favor of peace [first]." Allah, Allah. What can I say? Should I encourage killing and slaughter like the bigots? What should I say? Of course we must advocate peace. Once you have convinced a society in favor of peace, with verses and the Qur'an, and once the society lives accordingly, then how can you turn it back to wickedness again? I mean, if the Mahdi said, may Allah forbid, "You must all kill yourselves," should they go along with that? But the Mahdi cannot say anything so illogical. When the Mahdi uses language compatible with the Qur'an and the hadiths, people will follow him. But if you think he will do something as crazy as that, then your logic is defective. You fail to think the best. You must trust people.
The Mahdi will also act together with Jesus the Messiah. He is no someone who comes on his own. His life is transparent and bound up with Christians. They will work in alliance with Christians. Christians will be the main force, in other words. Muslims and Christians allied together. How can he destroy the people he is himself allied with? And why? This is opposed to the commandment of the Qur'an. How can you oppress the People of the Book? How can you kill and slaughter? For example my beauty here, my beloved one, she is from Serbia. Muslims were massacred in Serbia. We'll punish only those murderers, that has got nothing to do with my beauty here. My beauty is innocent, like the other Serbians that had nothing to do with it. Why would I be angry with her? But some stupid people hate all Serbians. Those people are normal, innocent people that have got nothing to do with those crimes. They hate violence, murder.
We will bring down any killer. And using the law, not through wickedness and killing.
What does Joel say? "According to the Bible, the antichrist will include present-day Islamic states." There you are. My brother, you are sowing the seeds of hatred. You are sowing the seeds of hatred in all Christians' hearts. Instead of saying that, you should say that Christians and Muslims must be brothers and serve Allah's religion together and espouse the Oneness of Allah. "Even if some Christians agree that the Roman Empire served as the system of the antichrist, these are actually Islamic states." So crush and slaughter them all. You are already engaged in slaughter of them. Is that at all logical? You should be demanding warmth and brotherhood. We believe in the same Allah. Don't we? We have the same Allah and the same prophets, and we believe in the same hereafter and the same paradise and hell. Do Muslims not have their antichrist? The bigots? Yes, there are. I have already said they do. There are al-Qaeda and the Taliban. There are unbelievably wicked people. We see them burning Muslims in Africa today.http://www.harunyahya.com/en/works/146038/Joel-Richardson-is-gravely-mistaken-in-showing-Turkey-as-the-antichrist---1
ADNAN OKTAR: "According to the Bible, the antichrist will appear before Jesus. The Mahdi awaited by all Muslims will come to unify all states at exactly that era." That time is now. "This is a resemblance that cannot be ignored." So the Mahdi is the antichrist, he is saying. In other words, if we have Islamic Unity, the antichrist has come. Look at the cunning of that. The bigots do not want Islamic Unity, either. I talk of peace and come in peace. "Oh, that is exactly one of the portents of the antichrist," he says. Should I appear with a sword in my hand? What should I do?
I said it before, and said it again, "In that case let us not do it." Being the antichrist is a very terrible thing. So why bother if we are going to be the antichrist? Let us abandon building the mosque, I said. That really offended him. He was all excited, then that excitement disappeared. He insists we comply with his signs and be the antichrist. In his book Antichrist: Islam's Awaited Messiah.. Look, this is a most provocative book. Instead of saying that, my brother, you should tell Christians and Muslims to be united, say that the Mahdi and Jesus should be allies, say you want world peace. And Turkey's military power is plain to see. Turkey only defends itself. Turkey has no means, education, character, spirit or military power to enable it to cut everywhere to pieces. Where did you get that idea from? Turkey is only able to cope with the PKK. We have no military force; we make no such claim. There is no question of us going around killing everyone. But you do not let us talk of peace. So what are we to do? Whom has Turkey ever attacked? It is a country that talks of its own legitimate rights and seeks love and affection. "In his book The Antichrist: Islam's Awaited Messiah, he claims that according to the Bible there are unbelievable similarities and parallels between the antichrist and the Muslim Mahdi, that both will come on white horses as political and military leaders to conquer the world, that both will collaborate with a false prophet and that they will establish a single world religion. In other words, he regards the global reign of Islam as the way of the antichrist. "Richardson cites a hadith that speaks of the Mahdi signing a 7-year agreement with the Romans via a Jewish intermediary; just like the antichrist in the Bible signing a 7-year agreement with the Jews." But the Mahdi forging an agreement with the Christian world and making an alliance with them is a most humane and peaceable course of action. What has that got to do with the system of the antichrist? No, I am not saying there are no Muslims with a wretched antichrist-like mentality, we are indeed engaged in opposition to the bigots day and night. There are one or two in every country, and there are several antichrist-like bigots in Turkey. "Most of the hadiths were the result of the influence of the Bible, since the Bible was in existence at that time. The Prophet Muhammed also obtained most of what he said about the End Times from the Bible." Fine. He also got it from the Torah. That is the same thing, as it also comes from revelation. But the sources are also in the Torah, the Zabur, the Injil and the Qur'an, as well as in the hadiths. A true stipulation, it will happen in the End Times… It is also in Noah's books. It is something all the prophets have known since the time of Adam, for which reason the fact it resembles the Injil shows that the Injil is a book based on revelation. It is not opposed to it. The same thing is in the Torah. Why should you not discuss it? It is also in the Zabur, so why should you not discuss it? The accounts in the Torah and the Zabur and the Injil and the hadtihs are in agreement, showing that the statement is true. It shows they come from the same source of revelation, from Almighty Allah. "According to Muslims, the Mahdi and the false Messiah will unite the entire Muslim world and re-establish the Ottoman Empire." But the hadiths do not refer to the Ottoman Empire. This is a most dishonest and unscientific claim. Who says the Ottoman Empire will rise again? There were good things about the Ottoman Empire, but it has nothing to do with the Ottoman Empire; the Ottoman system is now history. I mean, it may resemble the Ottoman Empire inasmuch as it resembles certain aspects of Islam, but the Ottoman Empire made blatant errors. Why should it be the Ottoman Empire?
"The false Jesus…" Look, they prepared the way for Jesus the Messiah. Since Jesus the Messiah will say that Allah is One, they are preparing the ground for him as the false Messiah. They want Jesus to say I am the Messiah or even, may Allah forbid, I am Allah. How can a human being who eats, sleeps and goes to the bathroom be Allah? You are saying that a human being who sleeps, eats, goes to the bathroom and feels hunger, a servant and prophet who prays to and beseeches Allah actually is Allah.
"Administrations will come to an end with the war of Gog and Magog and the real Jesus will come and the Islamic world will think that the true Jesus the Messiah is false." In other words, someone will appear and say he is Allah. That is how the antichrist will appear, claiming to be Allah. I mean, why should one call a human being who eats, Allah? There is such dishonesty there, my brother. Since you believe in three Gods, you say that Allah is tripartite, the Holy Ghost, Allah, and the Son; Jesus the Messiah. He says one can pray to the Holy Ghost. Fine. In fact, it is not [right], but let assume for a moment it is. He says one can also pray to Jesus the Messiah, and also to Allah. But why do you not pray to Allah out of these three deities? Since you have the right to choose, then choose Allah. Pray to Allah. They do not pray to the Holy Ghost and they do not pray to Allah. They pray to Jesus the Messiah. If there are 3 options, pray to Allah. Isn't that right? I say this, and there is no reply. My brother, pray directly to Allah. Isn't that right? Instead of praying to the son, the person you regard as the son, may Allah forbid, pray to Allah instead. In any case, Allah has no son. I will also set out where that belief stems from. No young Christian I have spoken to so far believes that Jesus the Messiah is Allah. My brother, he gets hungry and eats, he goes to the bathroom, he becomes tired and goes to sleep and he prays to Allah. How can he be Allah? How can a young person, a university student, believe it if he is told that "Jesus the Messiah is Allah."? May Allah forbid. They have created a great mass of faithless, irreligious Christians. Belief in Allah is very rare among Christians now. They followed that policy as if were a huge success and the result was enormous wickedness.
"John says in the Bible that peoples who come from the north will start the war of Gog and Magog, for which reason people used to believe that the Russians were Gog and Magog, yet …" Look, that time they were obsessed with the Russians. "Yet since it appears to be Turkey that will establish union, Gog and Magog must be the Turks!" In other words, he is of the opinion that the Turks are Gog and Magog. They believe that they should be eliminated in some way through war with the Turks and that the world will then be at ease. They believe that the annihilation through mass slaughter of the Turkish nation, the antichrist, will be beneficial. Because if Turkey and the Turkish nation are the system of the antichrist, since they cannot discriminate among them, then they need to be annihilated en masse. Because people who do not say that Allah is Three will need to disappear. Since the Turkish nation says that Allah is One, then they must all be supporters of the antichrist, may Allah forbid. Then all should be slaughtered according to their mindset. I do not understand this logic. I find it very wrong.
My brother, stop looking for the antichrist. The antichrist is irreligion. All atheist movements and Darwinist, materialist movements are the antichrist. There is no question of the antichrist emerging from devout Jews or devout Christians or devout and sincere Muslims, not from any of them. There is no such logic. You should leave this mindset. You say that Jesus the Messiah who will come will claim to be Allah and that he will live in the Temple in Jerusalem. Look at your own theory! Nothing like that can ever emerge from out of Islam, may Allah forbid. Otherwise there would be no more religion and faith. Muslims know better than to say such a thing. But what do you say? "When Jesus the Messiah comes he will claim to be Allah and will live in the Temple of Solomon." That will be in complete agreement with what you say, he would be the antichrist you describe. A Muslim will seek shelter in Allah in such a thing. A Muslim knows his place. Antichrist is the name of the entire system of wickedness. We will continue to correct Darwinism, materialism and communist thinking, not through killing and slaughter, but with affection and compassion. All this talk about blood rising to the level of horses' stomachs… Some Christians believe in that. Joel's friends also believe it. She says blood will rises to horses' stomachs. What is all this fascination with blood? We are living in the 21st century. People are open to ideas of all kinds. There is radio and television and the internet. You must convince people by talking to them. You must talk to them. They will either agree or disagree. If someone does not agree, why kill him? Whatever beliefs someone may hold, so long as he does you no harm, let him do as he likes.
Yes. Now Joel may find all this criticism a bit harsh. It may be a bit harsh, but I am telling the truth. I am saying what is true. I am saying nothing untrue. This is my answer to Joel.
ADNAN OKTAR: To sum up, Joel must stop thinking of the Islamic world as the antichrist. Of course there are antichrists in the Islamic world; there are antichrists among Christians, of course. But these are allied with one another. Compassionate and loving Muslims will ally themselves with Christians who believe in Allah and with affectionate, compassionate Jews who believe in Allah. And they will make the people of the world brothers and will live in peace. In other words, they will all believe in the same thing. For example, if one day the Mahdi says, may Allah forbid, and he never would say it, but let us imagine he did, "We must kill everyone," nobody would listen to him. They will listen to what is compatible with the Qur'an and the hadiths. If a Christian says let us kill everyone as they forge an alliance with the Mahdi, no Christian will listen to him. And if a Jew says let us kill all Christians and Muslims as he works together with the Mahdi, everyone will think he has gone crazy and nobody will have anything to do with him. So it is terribly wicked to declare that people who want peace are actually the antichrist. It is wrong to portray people who advocate brotherhood as the antichrist.
"If Erdogan wants war, you can be sure he is not the antichrist," he says. My brother, stop this, you are calling everyone you think of the antichrist. The Turkish nation is a very warm, reasonable and affectionate one made up of democratic and rational people. During the War of Independence, the Italians and the British and the French came and occupied us all. What was the Turkish nation meant to do? They fought a defensive war to save their lives. Who were the aggressors? Christians. And the defenders? Muslims. What were they doing? They defended the nation and themselves. What were they expected to do? Say come and crush us? They engaged in self-defense.
But of course I approach matters with affection. I have no anger or hatred. We will talk and discuss. He was rather irritable when he arrived, very tense, but I talked and calmed him down a bit. He was very, very angry toward Muslims and Islam. He was amazed when I treated him with affection, when I behaved warmly toward him. He even apologized for his clothing, and a bit for his behavior. He was very tense and irritable. (He later talked a lot about that.) Yes, he talked about it later. I appreciate that, but these theories of the antichrist and that kind of thing are very dangerous. That kind of language will endanger world peace and cause people to hate the Turkish world. You can call wicked people the antichrist, you can accuse Darwinists and materialists, communists, those among them who act wickedly and ruthlessly, terrorists who blow people up and kill, you can accuse them of being the antichrist, but it is terribly wrong to accuse a whole nation, a whole people, a whole religion. That is a great error. May Allah give him guidance.
But I will talk and explain matters. But if he is not given a reply… His books also sell in large numbers. There are Christian fanatics and neo-Nazis and the rest, and they go crazy when they read them. They go and set fire to Turkish people's homes and try and murder their children. The result is an extraordinary evil. What need is there for that? It is so wrong. Criticize bad people, draw people's attention to them. But good and sincere people regard it as a good thing to be brothers and espouse peace people to be brothers. And skepticism is very wrong; what if one day they try to kill all Christians… What kind of logic is that? It is like saying, what if the Sun splits in two one day and a rocket comes out of it, bringing spacemen with it. If the whole world has been called to peace, if Christians and Jews believe and you act together with them, then nobody will go along with the Mahdi if he appears and says, right, I am going to kill you all. What logic is that? It is of course impossible, but I am just saying so people will understand.
ADNAN OKTAR: Jerry Davis, the former priest and lawyer, responds to Joel; "In particular, it is impossible according to Biblical tradition for that people who will come from the north mentioned in Ezekiel to be the Turks. This is not open to interpretation. There is no question of the north of Jerusalem being the north. And in discussing the antichrist in Thessalonians he described how he will claim to be divine. It is impossible for a Muslim to announce his own divinity and mislead other Muslims." My brother, what Muslim will believe anyone who turns up and says that he is Allah? Is that at all possible? "And it is impossible to deceive Muslims in that sense; someone who depicts himself as a Christian might be more likely" he says. "Joel takes those parts of the Bible he wants to use," he says.
Of course I cannot say anything if he believes in the Trinity. That is a belief; but I do want him to be honest. Look, I repeat. Allah, the Holy Spirit and Jesus the Messiah – now I ask, which one of those can one pray to? Christians say to all three. What will you say if I advise you to pray to Allah? I do not, he says. So do you pray to the Holy Spirit? He says he only regards Jesus the Messiah as Allah and believes in him. And you can see the position of the Christian world as a result. In America you can count the number of young people who believe in Allah on the fingers of one hand. Christianity is increasingly collapsing and shrinking. Instead of saying that, you should say that Allah is One and that Jesus the Messiah is a prophet. Jesus the Messiah himself says that he is a servant of Allah. He prays to Allah. Jesus the Messiah never says that he is Allah. Everywhere he says that he is a servant of Allah and prays to Allah. How can Allah pray to Allah? My brother, he [Jesus Christ] sleeps and eats. Does Allah sleep and eat? He has physical needs. This is really unbelievable. It is quite astonishing. But when one asks, and there are Christian people I know and they come here and we dine together, they say we can regard Jesus the Messiah as a manifestation there, as a manifestation of Allah. All right, regard Jesus the Messiah as a manifestation of Allah. We also regard him as a manifestation of Allah. Isn't that right? The Torah refers to the children of Allah, referring to all believers, and I imagine that this belief must have come from that. I will clarify that passage later, insha'Allah.
Answers from Treatise of Light collection to the mistake of Joel Richardson in describing Turkey as the Antichrist
Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live conversation on A9 TV dated July 26th, 2012
ADNAN OKTAR: Joel must listen to this. Joel dishonestly says that we have declared Christians to be the antichrist. For one thing, I espouse the way of the Mahdi. I am someone who completely goes along with the hadiths of the Messenger of Allah. I act in the light of the Prophet (saas) and the language of Bediuzzaman and what they say. So what he says is completely wrong right from the outset. Look, Bediuzzaman says; "the individual antichrist that will be killed by the sword of the individual Jesus (pbuh)." The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will kill the system of the antichrist, he says. In other words, Christians are the anti-antichrist. How can they be the antichrist? They are anti-antichrist. Christians are a system that will kill the antichrist. Look, he says, "the individual antichrist that will be killed by the sword of the individual Jesus (pbuh)." In other words, he says that Christians will kill the antichrist. He says they will destroy the system of the antichrist under the leadership of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). That is what Bediuzzaman says. So Christians opposed to the antichrist are our allies. Christians are not the antichrist, but the anti-antichrist, the exact opposite of the antichrist. "The collective personality and the huge statue of materialism and irreligion embodied in the antichrist," in other words, the collective personality of Darwinism and materialism, their predomination in the universities and schools of the world. "... will be destroyed," look, he says, the system of the antichrist will be destroyed, "by the truly pious followers of Jesus (pbuh)." So how can they be the antichrist? Where did you get that idea from? What does Bediuzzaman say? He says they are the anti-antichrist. "The antichrist will be destroyed by the truly pious followers of Jesus (pbuh)," Christian priests and religious figures that is, "who will blend the essence of true Christianity with the essence of Islam," with the truths of the Qur'an, blending the truths of Christianity with the truths of the Qur'an and Islam, "and rout the antichrist with their combined strength, in effect killing him spiritually" says Bediuzzaman, in the Rays.
Look, Bediuzzaman says, "Missionaries," Christian missionaries, "and Christian spiritual leaders and the followers of the Nur (Light) must be on the alert. Because the northern current," the Leftist, communist current in other words, "in the face of the attack of Islam and Christianity," in other words, in order to defend itself from the attack of Muslims and Christians who form an alliance, "the antichrist will seek to damage the alliance between Islam and the missionaries in order to protect itself." Be careful, he says; the antichrist will try to annihilate the alliance between Christians and Muslims. Now if Mr. Joel does that, if he tries to do that, if he tries to wreck the alliance between Christians and Muslims, who will that be helping? Let us not answer that question, but let him figure that out himself instead. He should try to strengthen the alliance, not wreck it. He is doing harm with such dishonest statements.
Look, "A zealous and self-sacrificing community known as a Christian community but worthy of being called 'Muslim Christians,' that seeks to unite the reality of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) [true Christianity] with the reality of Islam, will kill and rout that society of the antichrist under the leadership of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) [under his personal leadership], thus saving humanity from atheism." In other words, he says the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) and Christian spirituals who act together with him will destroy Darwinism and materialism, but they will come by that power by uniting themselves with the truth of the Qur'an.
ADNAN OKTAR: Now this Joel and.. Of course I am not referring to Joel alone but to people who think like him, as there are tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions of people like Joel, who are mistaken. Look, let me explain again based on Bediuzzaman Said Nursi's opinions on the subject in order to eliminate that error. I'm continuing. "It is even recorded," says Bediuzzaman "in authentic traditions of the Prophet (saas)," in true hadiths, "that at the end of time, the truly pious among the Christians," Christians, truly devout ones as there are also dishonest and insincere religious people, "will unite with the People of the Qur'an," they will ally themselves with Muslims. What are Christians doing? They are forging an alliance with Muslims. What does alliance mean? Striving shoulder to shoulder, together as brothers and friends. Against what? Against the antichrist. Are the Christians the antichrist here, or are they opposed to the antichrist? They are opposed to the antichrist. Who are they striving against? Against the antichrist. Who? Muslims and Christians together. "... and fight their common enemy, irreligion," the antichrist that is. "And at this time, too, the people of religion," all true believers "and the people of truth," in other words including the director of religious affairs, and all true sincere Muslims seeking the truth, "need to unite sincerely not only with their fellow believers," not only with Muslims, he says, "and own brothers," uniting sincerely with one's brothers, for example with the people in the same country, and acting together, in a sincere manner. "... but also with the truly pious and spiritual ones among the Christians." Look, with the truly pious and spiritual Christians, that is Christian priests and men of religion, devout Christians. Look, I am coming to the most important point here. "... temporarily from the discussion and debate of points of difference," not debating about belief in the trinity or other matters, but regarding them as brothers just as they are, friends in the cause. "... in order to combat their joint enemy--aggressive atheism," in other words the antichrist. "They need that", says Bediuzzaman. He says that Christians and Muslims must act together. That is why those who try to set Christians and Muslims against one another are making a grave error. That is very wrong. The truth is what Bediuzzaman says, as also clearly set out in the hadiths. Because even if they believe in the trinity, they still say they believe in the One Allah. This stems from misinterpretation of the trinity. Instead of saying he [Jesus Christ] is a manifestation of Allah, they describe him as if he were God Himself, as if he were really the son of Allah. But this is really in the sense of a manifestation. If they say it in the sense of a manifestation, that puts an end to it and there is no problem.
It is terribly unjust to denounce a religion, a nation, as the army of the antichrist as a whole
Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's Live Conversation on A9 TV dated July 27th, 2012
ADNAN OKTAR: Joel Richardson looks to be humane, but his description of the antichrist is very ruthless and a far cry from compassion and love and good conscience. It is terribly unjust and a huge violation of conscience to denounce a religion, a nation, as the army of the antichrist as a whole. There are good and bad people in all faiths. There are good Christians, and they support the Mahdi, and Jesus the Messiah. There are good Jews, and they support the Mahdi and Jesus the Messiah. There are good Muslims, and they support the Mahdi and Jesus the Messiah. The bad ones support the antichrist. There are supporters of the antichrist in all three faiths. And there are supporters of the Mahdi and the Messiah in all three faiths. People can be judged according to whether they are good or bad. But it is very abnormal and dishonest to say that the antichrist will come from Turkey, that people in the region of Turkey are the army of the antichrist, or that the Vatican is the army of the antichrist. This talk encourages wickedness, disorder and terror. But the truth is that wicked, cruel and loveless people will support the antichrist. Isn't it? The enemies of Allah, Darwinists and materialists will support the antichrist, while good and loving people who see the fact of Creation will support the Mahdi and the Messiah. Richardson may be referring to the entire Turkish nation as the army of the antichrist out of a desire to make a name for himself in Europe, to cause some excitement or maybe out of genuine ignorance. But this is disgraceful and a terrible sin. Something he will not be able to account for in the hereafter. He actually slanders the Bible by saying, "It is in the Bible." The Bible says no such thing. Does it say, "The Turkish nation is the antichrist" anywhere in the Bible? Allah would never say such an illogical thing. So Joel needs to correct his language as a matter of urgency. People around him, rational people, should warn him.